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Gypsy Nirvana In Jail In England, To Face Trial In Maine.

Wonder how long they have had him in jail in England for?

I think this will be the end of Seedboutique/Seedbay.

Nirvana was indicted with one or two other people for alleged drug activity between 2004 and April 2013 but their names are redacted from the indictment because they are not yet in custody, according to the U.S. attorney’s office.

Looks like they may be charging other employees of Seedboutique also.

Nirvana fought extradition from the Philippines for nearly a year, before that country’s court of appeals ordered the bureau of immigration to proceed with his deportation to England, the Daily Inquirer reported on July 20, 2014.

Information on when he left the Philippines and arrived in London was not included in the article or court documents.

Don’t tell me he has been in jail in the UK since 2014, and ICMAG has been telling us lies and saying he’s still in the Phillipines.

jumpincactus
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What are the charges, failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes of the Dea/Bayer/Monsanto/MiracleGro/General Hydroponics/Hortafarm/GWPharma?

Yes I always look at the bigger brushes and the picture that been painted for me. Real breeders, watch your asses. They coming for you

LocalGrowGuy

What are the charges, failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes of the Dea/Bayer/Monsanto/MiracleGro/General Hydroponics/Hortafarm/GWPharma?

Yes I always look at the bigger brushes and the picture that been painted for me. Real breeders, watch your asses. They coming for you

[failure to comply with fake-seed selling wishes. ]
Your post implies conspiracy not relating to gypsy, which has its place, just wrong thread maybe. You’d get a reply in a relevant thread such as the bayer/monsanto or gmo or etc. Welcome to the farm.

How do you define ‘real breeder’?

People don’t realise the importance of this.

I’m not going to say too much, but this could see a lot of American seed breeders go to jail.

The US DEA may not even have Gypsy Nirvana as their main target, their main target may be to shut down the online selling of seeds, and they see Gypsy as a way to accomplish that.

Icmag shut down discussion of this after a short while.

But what is interesting is that Gypsy said he thinks the whole thing started with a “Mother”, as he referred to her as, who was a member of icmag at the time, and she got busted growing and LE threatened to take her kid unless she rolled, so she rolled and she shopped Rezdog, who shopped Dutchgrown and some others, and they rolled and shopped Gypsy.

I have suspicions who this “Mother” is that Gypsy is referring to, but I can’t say anything without proof.

So it didn’t start with customs finding Rezdog’s seeds he was sending to the UK, and I never believed it did.
I mean there are two things in relation to that, and the first is that customs don’t have enough resources to check everything that comes into the country, let alone also check what people are sending overseas.

And the second is that, would Rezdog mail illegal drugs overseas with his name and address on the back?
I don’t think so.

It’s called parrallel construction, where LE hides the fact that their bust is a result of an investigation, and to hide the identity of people who have rolled.
A classic case is where LE arranges for a “random” car stop, and just happens to find drugs in the car.

So Rezdog was under surveillance for a while, and LE knew he was going to post the drugs to the UK, so they just happened to arrange for a random finding of them, giving them a way of hiding the woman who shopped him.

Shit is going to go down, and unless you live in a legal state, then I advise don’t post grow pics or anything incriminating on any site, especially icmag.

LocalGrowGuy

People don’t realise the importance of this.

I’m not going to say too much, but this could see a lot of American seed breeders go to jail.

The US DEA may not even have Gypsy Nirvana as their main target, their main target may be to shut down the online selling of seeds, and they see Gypsy as a way to accomplish that.

Icmag shut down discussion of this after a short while.

But what is interesting is that Gypsy said he thinks the whole thing started with a “Mother”, as he referred to her as, who was a member of icmag at the time, and she got busted growing and LE threatened to take her kid unless she rolled, so she rolled and she shopped Rezdog, who shopped Dutchgrown and some others, and they rolled and shopped Gypsy.

I have suspicions who this “Mother” is that Gypsy is referring to, but I can’t say anything without proof.

So it didn’t start with customs finding Rezdog’s seeds he was sending to the UK, and I never believed it did.
I mean there are two things in relation to that, and the first is that customs don’t have enough resources to check everything that comes into the country, let alone also check what people are sending overseas.

And the second is that, would Rezdog mail illegal drugs overseas with his name and address on the back?
I don’t think so.

It’s called parrallel construction, where LE hides the fact that their bust is a result of an investigation, and to hide the identity of people who have rolled.
A classic case is where LE arranges for a “random” car stop, and just happens to find drugs in the car.

So Rezdog was under surveillance for a while, and LE knew he was going to post the drugs to the UK, so they just happened to arrange for a random finding of them, giving them a way of hiding the woman who shopped him.

Shit is going to go down, and unless you live in a legal state, then I advise don’t post grow pics or anything incriminating on any site, especially icmag.

edit- I’m sure your warning applies to instasnap and bookface etc as well?

“Did customs just happen to find rezdog’s seeds, or did someone tip off the feds?
All I know is I’m buying front row tickets.”

I think LE had him under surveillance, and knew he was about to send a package of seeds, and tipped off customs.

I mean, ok, so if they found the seeds, how would they trace them back to Rezdog?

He would have to have his return address on the package, and I don’t think anyone would be stupid enough to do that.
The only other way is they found his fingerprints on the package.

I would say Gypsy Nirvana would plead guilty anyway, I mean I think they probably have him cold.
And don’t forget, you get a sizeable discount off your sentence if you plead guilty.
So I think it’s unlikely that the truth will come out in court, as if he pleads guilty then the one’s that rolled wont be giving evidence.

It seems that these one’s in Maine that got busted all knew each others business, which is not a good way to roll if you are growing somewhere it’s illegal, so they were able to shop each other, and then shop Gypsy Nirvana.

LocalGrowGuy

“Did customs just happen to find rezdog’s seeds, or did someone tip off the feds?
All I know is I’m buying front row tickets.”

I think LE had him under surveillance, and knew he was about to send a package of seeds, and tipped off customs.

I mean, ok, so if they found the seeds, how would they trace them back to Rezdog?

He would have to have his return address on the package, and I don’t think anyone would be stupid enough to do that.
The only other way is they found his fingerprints on the package.

I would say Gypsy Nirvana would plead guilty anyway, I mean I think they probably have him cold.
And don’t forget, you get a sizeable discount off your sentence if you plead guilty.
So I think it’s unlikely that the truth will come out in court, as if he pleads guilty then the one’s that rolled wont be giving evidence.

It seems that these one’s in Maine that got busted all knew each others business, which is not a good way to roll if you are growing somewhere it’s illegal, so they were able to shop each other, and then shop Gypsy Nirvana.

Respectfully, I don’t think you fully understand what a plea agreement is, or what they entail, because there are no discounts. A defendant might make a deal to plead guilty to lesser charges in return for testifying. Gypsy would plea his case, say he’s guilty of a lesser charge, which takes more serious charges off the table, but the penalty or sentence isn’t discounted. Care to clarify? This is where the term ‘throw the book at’ comes from. I guess I’m picking nits. I think you might be confusing a confidential informant and their testimony which might be sealed, but plea deals for federal charges aren’t sealed automatically, and they wouldn’t be for a pot case, especially with El Jeffe at the helm of the AG’s office. The original charges, as well as the evidence behind them, doesn’t automatically go away, which is why I’m wondering why this thread is the only one around like it. Curious I guess.

From federaldrugcharges.net-
“Remember that if you provide cooperation with the feds in the charges against you and your associates that helps in the case, the government may reduce your sentence by as much as 30%.

Cooperating includes testifying against others facing indictment, and/or providing information or active cooperation to create a new investigation/indictment against another person.”

I equate cooperation to being a snitch, not getting a discount for admitting guilt.

In these days of instagram, facebook and other social media, how do people in this industry NOT know each other’s business? Moving forward, what did these guys do wrong that others can not do in the future? Also, when can we blame obama?

How are you involved? Some of what I see is legit, and some of it is obviously mistaken, but it sure seems like you got the details, but some of them are wrong and seem presumptive. We should know where you sit so we can see where you stand.

Why is gypsy nirvana the only name being thrown around?

http://bangordailynews.com/2017/03/07/news/state/alleged-marijuana-seed-trader-due-in-maine-to-face-charges-this-spring/ Wonder how long they have had him… ]]>