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If you aren’t goin to respond with anythin relevant to the subject of my thread, then don’t respond at all. No one needs your smartass posts, and I doubt you have even have half the writin ability or IQ (147) to even be criticizin my post structure to begin with. So what if I didn’t put it in neat lil paragraphs? You’re the only one complainin. Now get out of here.

yea I agree with you man. These are forums. Not english class. People get hard ons making stupid little comments like that. And they think they are so witty and smart.

No, its not english class – but you actually want people to read your post dont you? While I dont expect perfect grammar, punctuation, spelling – a few line breaks can make the difference between me skipping past a post and not giving it 2 seconds, or sitting down and giving it a read.

Hell, I didn’t even read the first post until I read some of the replies, whenever I see a massive block of text posted on a message board, my eyes glaze over and I ignore it. If you are asking for advice, you should put SOME effort into putting it into a format that people wont simply ignore.

Now, to expand on my thoughts a bit more:

IMO, there is a difference between Ego Loss and Ego Death, and I’d be more inclined to think that most people have Ego Loss, and even less have Ego Death (and people often confuse ego death for ego loss).

There are MANY ways to acheive these states : Meditation, Relaxation, Drugs, Dancing, Ritual, Sweat Lodges, etc – the mind is a VERY powerful thing, and drugs like Mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, DMT and other psychedelics are one way of many of reaching a state of ego loss.

Generally speaking, for *most* people, they do not have the ability to reach this state without a bit of a helper, and to reach a state of ego loss through say, simply Meditation, is something that would take most people MANY years of practice to reach.

So, whats my point? – I dont see any reason why Weed could not cause someone ego-loss, weed *IS* a psychedelic, it is possible to trip from weed, it does alter your sense of reality, and EVERYONE reacts differently to drugs.

As for the Original Poster, I don’t think his friend was having ‘ego loss’, for me, ego loss is more of a state of

– Your sense of self, sense, identity slip away
– Concepts of space / time are no longer there
– You enter a timeless state of simply ‘being’ and connectedness
– The references of which you have formed to make sense of the physical world around you no longer make sense

While his ego may of been rattled abit, dont think it was ego loss, but again – I dont see why Weed, especially if used in conjunction
with say – meditation, could not lead to some form of ego loss.

(and now, to prove a point, the above post, with no linebreaks)

No, its not english class – but you actually want people to read your post dont you? While I dont expect perfect grammar, punctuation, spelling – a few line breaks can make the difference between me skipping past a post and not giving it 2 seconds, or sitting down and giving it a read. Hell, I didn’t even read the first post until I read some of the replies, whenever I see a massive block of text posted on a message board, my eyes glaze over and I ignore it. If you are asking for advice, you should put SOME effort into putting it into a format that people wont simply ignore.Now, to expand on my thoughts a bit more:IMO, there is a difference between Ego Loss and Ego Death, and I’d be more inclined to think that most people have Ego Loss, and even less have Ego Death (and people often confuse ego death for ego loss).There are MANY ways to acheive these states : Meditation, Relaxation, Drugs, Dancing, Ritual, Sweat Lodges, etc – the mind is a VERY powerful thing, and drugs like Mushrooms, LSD, Mescaline, DMT and other psychedelics are one way of many of reaching a state of ego loss.Generally speaking, for *most* people, they do not have the ability to reach this state without a bit of a helper, and to reach a state of ego loss through say, simply Meditation, is something that would take most people MANY years of practice to reach.So, whats my point? – I dont see any reason why Weed could not cause someone ego-loss, weed *IS* a psychedelic, it is possible to trip from weed, it does alter your sense of reality, and EVERYONE reacts differently to drugs. As for the Original Poster, I don’t think his friend was having ‘ego loss’, for me, ego loss is more of a state of – Your sense of self, sense, identity slip away,- Concepts of space / time are no longer there,- You enter a timeless state of simply ‘being’ and connectedness – The references of which you have formed to make sense of the physical world around you no longer make sense While his ego may of been rattled abit, dont think it was ego loss, but again – I dont see why Weed, especially if used in conjunction with say – meditation, could not lead to some form of ego loss.

. ugly isnt it? and who the hell would want to read through that mess.

a few times on bud, i’ve had an extremely strong deja vu-like experience. it felt like i was a director of a movie, though i have never experienced the ‘out of body’ sensation on weed. just that i was seeing things before they happened, and i swear i had REM whilst wide awake and walking even, it was quite a trip.

i seem to have the deja-vu experiences quite often on weed now.

p.s. i dont mind word-blocks, but the first 2 lines were somewhat catchy, so this time i chose to read it. ^_^

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I’m ahead, I’m advanced
I am the first mammal to make plans, yeah
I crawled the earth, but now I’m higher
2010, watch it go to fire.
It’s evolution baby.
-Pearl Jam

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TEAL_MUST_DIE said:
My answer would fairly be: HELL NO!

And why not? You can reach ego-loss through meditation. There are many ways to reach a state of ego-loss, psychedelic drugs are just one of them, and dont see why Weed would be a “hell no!”

what’s wrong with everybody? we’re talking about ego death for fuck sakes, EGO DEATH!, i dont know how can anybody who tripped with mushrooms level 4 or 5 can possibly say that weed is capable of causing ego loss as well.

whatever, maybe im wrong, i dont know, maybe my ego loss is waaaaaaay different.

btw, paragraphs do make whatever u write better, nobody is trying to be a smart ass, at least not me.

kaniz: I understand what you’re tellin me, but your example was even worse. Although my initial post was much longer, it all stayed to just one subject. If I had included multiple subjects (like how you included both the paragraph arguement and the weed discussion in the same post), then I would’ve made the effort to seperate the subjects by paragraphs. However, my post was just based on one thing only, and I wasn’t in the mood to organize it much anyway. I apologize if anyone didn’t like havin to read through that, but I honestly don’t think it was THAT bad. Then again, some people are more sensitive to certain things than others.

Now on the subject of the chronic and ego-loss, I’m startin to wonder how my friend would’ve reacted if he had smoked a powerful PURE sativa. The weed I blazed him on was only like 75% indica, 25% sativa (this is based on my experience with smokin various types of bud), and I’m goin to assume that he probably would’ve fully experienced ego-loss or ego-death if he had actually smoked somethin even MORE psychedelic than what he had already experienced.

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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
“I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It’s just a bad idea.”
LOL.

Edited by Killer Sausage (07/27/07 01:32 AM)

Quote:
TEAL_MUST_DIE said:
My answer would fairly be: HELL NO!

And why not? You can reach ego-loss through meditation. There are many ways to reach a state of ego-loss, psychedelic drugs are just one of them, and dont see why Weed would be a “hell no!”

what’s wrong with everybody? we’re talking about ego death for fuck sakes, EGO DEATH!, i dont know how can anybody who tripped with mushrooms level 4 or 5 can possibly say that weed is capable of causing ego loss as well.

whatever, maybe im wrong, i dont know, maybe my ego loss is waaaaaaay different.

btw, paragraphs do make whatever u write better, nobody is trying to be a smart ass, at least not me.

Well, the title said ego loss – not ego death.

And either way – ego loss / ego death are both obtainable without the use of drugs. The human mind is a rather amazing thing, and is able to do quite a bit without the need of drugs.

And trust me, I’ve had quite a few high-dose mushroom and LSD trips under my belt, and I dont see any reason why Weed could not be used as a tool to reach ego-loss, especially if used in conjunction with meditation.

Minor off-topic question:

I was thinkin for a moment, and I remembered that durin sleep paralysis (bein awake, yet unable to move your body cause it’s still sleepin), people often panic and think that they’d never be able to wake up again, never be able to be themselves, never to experience normal life/reality again, etc. Is this just plain fear, or does it involve somethin deeper havin to do with the ego? Someone enlighten me here.

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CHECKLIST:
*cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT.
(* = done it)

Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine:
“I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples.
Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It’s just a bad idea.”
LOL.

Edited by Killer Sausage (07/27/07 01:51 AM)

Quote: If you aren’t goin to respond with anythin relevant to the subject of my thread, then don’t respond at all. No one needs your smartass posts, and I doubt you have even have half the writin